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The Problem With Virtue

Posted by M. C. on August 24, 2022

By Ira Katz

The same people who lecture us day and night about how we shouldn’t “impose our morality” on other people think absolutely nothing of demonizing half of America and imposing their ideas on other people’s children.

So humility is the virtue that is lacking; and the problem is not with virtue, but with the virtuous.

When I recently wrote about being disagreeable I did not identify the aspect of the conversations that made me uncomfortable. The issue crystallized in a later conversation with an old friend of our family. He was lecturing us on the sins of cutting our grass and the virtue of having no grass at all. In fact, most of his conversation (and the other old friend I mentioned in the previous article) revolved around how they were living virtuous lives. This is not in an older sense of the term. At the end of the last century there was an evident loss of virtue. Specifically, we can identify the losses of chastity for lust, kindness for envy, and humility for pride (see this on Humility). But there is a new sense of virtue based on saving the planet or protecting society from infectious disease (unless it involves sex). Tom Woods put it well in his newsletter.

Whether it’s Black Lives Matter, or teaching gender theory to children, or the usefulness or otherwise of the COVID restrictions, or a wide variety of other subjects, people on one side of the divide have exerted a moral imperialism over the other, refusing even to acknowledge that there can be another side on issues like these, and have instead tried to drive their opponents from polite society through intense social pressure and the outright suppression of dissident voices.

The same people who lecture us day and night about how we shouldn’t “impose our morality” on other people think absolutely nothing of demonizing half of America and imposing their ideas on other people’s children.

Peter Hitchens noted the same virtue signaling behavior in his Monday conversation with Mike Graham (August 22, 2022). So it is not only me feeling the oppressive modern morality.

In conversations with these friends the underlying assumptions of virtue were implicitly critical of virtually all of my choices on how to live. In the conversation about cutting the grass I mentioned above I finally isolated the issue of virtue. This friend is very thoughtful but his assumptions about virtue had never occurred to him. I told him, “You believe climate change is occurring due to human activity, thus there are behaviors that you find virtuous. But I don’t believe what you believe. I believe in the Truth of Christianity and you don’t. Yet I don’t tell you how often I go to church or tithe.” He happens to be gay. I said to him “In all of the years I have known you have I ever mentioned anything about gays?” He responded that he discusses these things because everybody suffers from climate change. I answered, “You believe everybody suffers but I don’t. And I believe that everybody suffers when we don’t follow the teachings of the church. And the spread of monkeypox by gay men having origies could ultimately be dangerous for everybody.” I mentioned he is a very thoughtful guy. The next morning he told me that he now understood my point of view and would be more careful with his assumptions. This small meeting of minds, even though we still disagree, made me feel better after so many disagreeable conversations.

I believe in the old virtues, virtues that have stood the test of time. But I wonder if I lived in the society where those old virtues were the implicit assumptions would I be the one talking about how virtuous I was. Jesus pointed out the problem of the virtuous in his parable in Luke 18:10-14 (New International Version):

10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ 13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ 14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

So humility is the virtue that is lacking; and the problem is not with virtue, but with the virtuous.

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If Someone Despises Me

Posted by M. C. on May 7, 2021

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Watch “Talking About Stoicism 120 Being Avoiding Avoiding” on YouTube

Posted by M. C. on April 30, 2021

Virtue, Vice and Indifferents

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Watch “Talking About Stoicism Part 62: Muck, Dirt, Flux, and Reasons to Live” on YouTube

Posted by M. C. on March 14, 2020

Virtue and Progress

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Two Words That Will Change Your Life | Ryan Holiday | Daily Stoic Thoughts #17

Posted by M. C. on July 9, 2019

Stoicism is about virtue.

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Stupidity, Evil and the Decline of the US – International Man

Posted by M. C. on June 11, 2019

https://internationalman.com/articles/stupidity-evil-and-the-decline-of-the-us/

by Doug Casey

(Today’s article is an adaptation from one of Doug’s speeches.)

It used to be that America was a country of free thinkers.

“Say what you think, and think what you say.” That’s an expression you don’t hear much anymore.

It’s much more like the world of 1984 where everything is “double think.” You need to think twice before you say something in public. You think three times before you say something when you’re standing in an airport line.

Regrettably, the US is no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave. It’s become the land of whipped and whimpering dogs that roll over on their backs and wet themselves when confronted with authority.

Now, why are Americans this way? Let me give you two reasons—though there are many more.

First, there’s a simple absence of virtue. Let’s look at the word virtue. It comes from the Latin vir, which means manly, even heroic. To the Romans, virtues were things like fortitude, nobility and courage. Those virtues are true to the root of the word.

When people think of virtues today they think of faith, hope, charity—which are not related to the word’s root meaning. These may pass as virtues in a religious sense. But, outside a Sunday school, they’re actually actually vices. This deserves a discussion, because I know it will shock many. But I’ll save that for another time.

An absence of virtues and the presence of subtle vices is insinuated throughout society. Worse, overt vices like avarice and especially envy are encouraged. Envy, in particular will become a big vice in the years to come. It’s similar to jealousy, but worse. Jealousy says “You have something I want; I’ll try to take it from you”. Envy says “You have something I want. If I can’t take it from you, I’ll destroy it, and hurt you if I can.” Jealousy and envy seem to motivate most Democratic Party presidential candidates. No wonder America is in rapid decline.

A second reason is unsound philosophy. The reigning philosophy in the US used to be based on individualism and personal freedom. It’s now statism and collectivism. But most people don’t think about philosophy—or even have a consistent worldview. More than ever, they do what seems like a good idea at the time.

The average American has problems. But his rulers are something else again. Most of the people running the US are either knaves or fools. How do we know if we are dealing with a knave or a fool? In other words, are you dealing with somebody who is evil or just stupid? To give a recent, but classic, example, are you dealing with a Dick Cheney or a George W. Bush? Do you prefer the knavish Obama, or the knavish Biden? The foolish Trump, or the foolish Pence. Not much of a real choice anywhere…

At this point, the US resembles the planet Mars, which is circled by two moons, Phobos and Deimos, fear and terror in Greek. The US is also being circled by two moons, Kakos and Chazos, evil and stupidity in Greek. It’s hard to imagine the Founding Fathers having seen that as a possibility.

One of the relatively few laws I believe in is Pareto’s Law. Most people are familiar with it as the 80-20 rule—20% of the people do 80% of the work, 20% commit 80% of the crime, and so forth. It also applies to character and ethics. Most people—80%—are basically decent. What about that other 20%? Let’s call them potential trouble sources because they can go either way. But 20% of that 20%—4%—are the sociopaths; they consistently have bad intentions. They’re usually hiding under rocks. But they like to emerge at election time.

In normal times when everything’s going along well, they can look normal. They’ll deliver the mail, or sell shoes or stocks. They’ll pet the dog, and play softball on weekends. But when circumstances in society get ugly, and reach a certain point, they start evidencing themselves. The rest of the 20% start swinging along with them. That’s the place where we are right now in the US. It’s Pareto’s Law in operation. You can see it in basically all the Democratic Party’s candidates—Bernie, Pocahontas, AOC, and two dozen others.

A lot of people believe in American Exceptionalism. A good argument can be made for America having been exceptional in the past. It’s factually correct that America is the only country founded on the principles of individualism and personal freedom. It was actually different. It was special, even unique. But I don’t think it’s true anymore… Read the rest of this entry »

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