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The Electric Suicide of Harley-Davidson – EPautos – Libertarian Car Talk

Posted by M. C. on November 14, 2018

Even if you don’t ride an electric bike, you’ll still be forced to buy one  . . . for someone else.

Just like Teslas.

By eric

Imagine a Harley that doesn’t vibrate. No bark through the straight pipes when you push the starter button. No nothing through the pipes – which aren’t there anymore.

There is no starter button.

Just an On/Off switch.

No shifter, either. Because no gears.

All that remains is the “Harley” name on the tank – which isn’t one because it will never be used to store any gas. Might as well paint it on the side of your toaster.

Welcome to the 2019 LiveWire – Harley’s first electric motorcycle. The first of a whole line of them – intended to be ready by 2025.

They’re betting the future of the company on it.

If you have any Harley stock, better unload it.


Because an electric Harley is as silly as juice-bar speakeasy. It runs counter to the point.

People buy motorcycles – and especially Harley motorcycles – because they make that sound.

And also because of the smells – of gas and oil – which attend those sounds. Without which you’ve got what amounts to  alcohol-free beer.

And think about everything else that’s not longer there. Not just the things which make a Harley, but which make a motorcycle.

This thing goes on two wheels. That is the only thing it has in common with motorcycles. It is, fundamentally, a Moped – but lacking even the Moped’s internal combustion burble at idle. The operating principles are essentially identical.

One does not ride this bike; one is carried along for the ride.

You get on, turn it on – and that’s pretty much it. There’s nothing for your left hand to do except grip the bar, there being no clutch. Your legs – your feet – have even less to do than in an automatic-equipped car.

No gears to shift, remember. An electric bike has no transmission, no speeds or gears. The only thing you do on this “bike” that you’d do on a real one is rotate the throttle to increase speed…

But the LiveWire will have an adjustable LCD color touchscreen, Bluetooth and navigation.

Just like every other sail fawn on wheels, whether two or four.

And, just wait. Literally.

Like electric cars, the electric Harley takes anywhere from hours to recharge to as “little” as half an hour or so, if you plug it in to a “fast” charger. Harley has announced it will be installing these at dealerships, to “support” the electric gimpmobiles…

So why is Harley is resorting this electricselbsmordt?

It is because it is in trouble  . . . but it is in trouble because its bikes cost too much relative to other bikes – almost all of which are made in Japan – and sold for much less. For the $10k minimum it takes to get a stripped-down/base model 1200 HD you can buy a Japanese copy of the same thing and have a lot more money left in your pocket.

Only a small handful of Japanese bikes sticker for more than $20k. But that’s just getting rolling for a dresser Hog – the price of which can easily sail beyond $30k.

Harley is not in trouble because its bikes aren’t electric. There is no natural demand for such things – although there is plenty of of government demand (Harley, like every other manufacturer of IC-powered vehicles – is going EV because it being forced to go EV by the government).

Lots of people would love to own a Hog; they just can’t afford one…

And they won’t be able to afford an electrified HD.

Which will never be a Hog, either.

This is the fundamental economic problem with all electric vehicles, two wheels or four.

They cost too much. It is why they can only “sell” when subsidized (wait).

Harley had not released LiveWire pricing info when this article was written in early November of 2018  – so we don’t know the fulsome scurvy details, yet. But – to date – everything electrified has cost substantially more than its non-electric equivalent.

To get some idea of what this electro-Harley will cost, we can refer to the known prices of the other electric bike already on the market. It is the Zero, available in several different versions.

The Zero S is a “naked’ middleweight bike just barely comparable to a middleweight naked/sport bike from the 1980s of around 500 ccs (its engine makes about 60 hp and the top speed of this bike is only a bit more than 100 MPH; most non-electric current-year middleweights have close to 100 hp can be counted on to hit at least 140).

The S stickers for  $13,995 (with the “upgrade” battery that gives you 90 miles of highway range) which is about $5,000 more than you’d pay for a current 650-ish cc naked/middleweight sport bike…

Even if you don’t ride an electric bike, you’ll still be forced to buy one  . . . for someone else.

Just like Teslas.

That’s the new business model in these waning days of the empire.

It’s too bad for Harley. And it’s too bad for us.

Be seeing you




2 Responses to “The Electric Suicide of Harley-Davidson – EPautos – Libertarian Car Talk”

  1. Doug Rowley said

    Makes as much sense as having an airbag on a bike. Maybe next will be mass transit bikes. You sit on something that sort of looks like a Harley but it is really a train.

  2. M. C. Fox said

    I can remember a “few” years ago when some senator (Nebraska?) said motorcycles should have seat belts. I would like to know how many new power plants we would need if all cars were suddenly electric. I wonder how much a headwind affects the Harley recharge rate.

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